Originally posted by: crunkmoose
^I would point you to the VA, the postal service, DOT, etc.. Is there waste? Yes. Buuut... do we still get decent to good service out of these programs? Yes.
Also... still waiting for any of the teabaggers on this site, especially Matt to actually lay out a proposal for providing healthcare to all besides universal healthcare.
Originally posted by: Kevlar Moneyclips
heres my proposal- federal government says "as a thank you for paying taxes, you are all now insured, up to 80,000 dollars lifetime benefits" and they pay every medical bill you will ever get, right up to that $80,000-not a penny over. Use up your whole $80,000, get pneumonia, you pay for it yourself, you get private insurance, or you die. Giving everyone who walks through the hospital door a 10,000 dollar MRI is now both bad business and life threatening. No more titanium rods for broken bones, we're going back to plaster casts. No more million dollar treatments for people who might not live- we're not bankrupting the many for the lives of the few. No more "i'm entitled to extremely expensive drugs by virtue of the fact that I was born in america"- you spend your life fat, you get a heart attack, you get one surgery. You take responsibility for your own health, and accept the fact that life is not guaranteed you by the federal government or your fellow man.
Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE.
I was never aware of when healthcare became a fundamental human right, for one.
Originally posted by: white trash dirt bag
are you seriously that naive? china could take them in a week with a million air and ground forces if it wanted to [it was already there during the korean war], and if it wanted to nuke them, i'm sure it would be pretty easy to fabricate a justification with loose-nut kim at the helm and the media blackout both enjoy. and people would give a shit? really? and do what? write them a nasty letter? help them out like we helped out tibet? send in the u.n.? or do what they did when we went into iraq - nothing. the last few decades have made nothing more clear than the fact that our foreign policy is dictated by personal interest and not morality. if china wanted to make north korea its iraq, they could and we would do nothing. oh yeah, i'm sure there would be plenty of dramatically posed outrage, with photo-ops and sound bytes out on the wire, but at the end of the day, we only act when there is oil or money we can get our hands on involved. so yeah, china could bomb the shit out of them and the worst we would ever even think of doing is refuse to pay off the interest on our debt that month. but the following month, when we lined up to borrow more, we'd be sucking their dick like nothing had happened. that, or let our economy and the world economy collapse, something else a country as self-sufficient as china could probably ride out quite well.
so again, the real question is, why don't they? has north korea just not poked the tiger next to them enough, or is china playing at some kind of 'good communist/bad communist' routine? do they have naked pictures of mao? or do they not need to, because they already have. who knows. but it's definitely not because they can't. no offense, but that's one of the dumbest things i've seen an otherwise intelligent person say recently.