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October 17 2013 10:39 AM   QuickQuote Quote  




Tea party activists call bipartisan deal a capitulation, say they are unbowed

washingtonpost.com/politics 10/17/2013

The bipartisan Senate deal to end the government’s fiscal impasse was roundly condemned Wednesday by tea party leaders around the country, who accused Republican lawmakers of capitulating to President Obama and his Democratic allies in Congress.

Matt Kibbe, president of the FreedomWorks conservative group, called it “a total surrender” and said the tea party’s gambit to undermine Obama’s health-care law could have worked if GOP leadership had stood firm.

“We don’t have regrets,” Kibbe added. “This was a very winnable fight, if the Republicans had been willing to fight.”

The deal struck Wednesday was a major setback for tea party groups such as FreedomWorks, Heritage Action for America and Tea Party Patriots, which backed a longshot attempt to use fiscal legislation to defund the Affordable Care Act, commonly known as Obamacare.

In the end, conservatives set in motion a two-week-long government shutdown and brought the United States to the edge of its borrowing capacity without achieving their original goal of hobbling Obamacare. But activists said they were neither deflated nor defeated.

“Part of me thinks that sometimes you throw a ‘Hail Mary’ and just hope for the best,” said Joanne Jones, vice chairman of the Charleston Tea Party in South Carolina. “At the state we’re at now, I’m not sure how much worse we could have made anything. It doesn’t particularly bother me that it was attempted and failed. It was an opportunity for the American people to see a very petty and petulant president.”

The fight revved up the four-year-old tea party movement, which is now training its sights on blocking immigration reform and challenging incumbent Republicans up for reelection in 2014.

“This is not all for naught,” said Jenny Beth Martin, co-founder of Tea Party Patriots. “Fighting for freedom is always the right thing to do. We will take the energy and passion and put it into watching what the House does with amnesty legislation, and then into actions for next year that will involve elections.”

“We will keep fighting,” she added. “We’re not going to go away.”

Tea party organizers said the congressional showdown gave new steam to their efforts to dislodge establishment Republicans who did not champion the defunding effort, such as Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.), Sen. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.) and Sen. Thad Cochran (Miss.).

“It is invigorating, in the sense that who these people really are has become very plain,” said Roy Nicholson, chairman of the Mississippi Tea Party, noting that Cochran voted with the Senate Democratic leadership during a key moment in the budget fight. “They are not on the same side as the U.S. Constitution. They are not on the same side as the majority of their constituents.”

On Thursday, Mississippi state Sen. Chris McDaniel, a conservative aligned with the tea party movement, is scheduled to hold a news conference announcing whether he will challenge Cochran.

“I predict that Thad Cochran is going to go out,” Nicholson said. “You would just not believe the number of people who are furious with this man.”

In Tennessee, activists said they have seen a surge of enthusiasm for an effort to eject Alexander from office.

“This has energized people,” said Ben Cunningham, president of the Nashville Tea Party. “This confirmed our perception that we are going to have to replace people in Congress who talk conservative — and talk and talk and talk — and do nothing.”

Cunningham said activists’ focus on upcoming elections underscores how the tea party has transformed itself since it first emerged in 2009.

“We have gone from a protest movement to a movement about the nuts and bolts of elections,” he said.

Meanwhile, national groups such as FreedomWorks said they plan to keep up the pressure.

“This fight goes on and on, as long as Obamacare continues to be implemented,” Kibbe said.
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October 17 2013 11:28 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
These people are so embarrassing.
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November 16 2013 10:12 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
lol
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November 17 2013 5:59 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Dianana

These people are so embarrassing.




so true. that tea party is a bunch of losers. incredible.
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November 17 2013 11:51 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
.. but. but .. but... they say freedom a lot! How could they be bad!!!!

I wonder how many of the idiots in that photo know that the deficit is falling.
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November 17 2013 3:24 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: crunkmoose

.. but. but .. but... they say freedom a lot! How could they be bad!!!!




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December 22 2013 11:31 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
cut taxes not defense. jesus christ
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December 22 2013 1:52 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
America is freedom and you're a damn communist if you don't lick the military's asshole. Love it or leave it (especially if you're brown, gay and/or anything other than a Christian).
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December 23 2013 12:54 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
This stupid shit is what comes from the breakdown of civic engagement and a lack of good civics and history education in schools.
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December 23 2013 3:14 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
^or just education in general. i don't think people realize how radically and how quickly positive change could happen in this country if we just made all higher education free for everyone, even if just for a few years. poor skill set - problem addressed. general understanding of science and the creationism vs. biological evolution argument - problem addressed. general economic literacy and understanding what socialized programs we already have - problem addressed. too few qualified health care workers - problem addressed. too few qualified educators - problem addressed. too few qualified [insert almost any field here] workers - problem addressed. in the short term, unemployment would plummet as a huge chunk of the unemployed went back to school, and in the long term they would graduate with better and more relevant skill sets. in the short term, many children would see their parents going back to school and studying for classes just like they are supposed to, in the long term, these parents would become better equipped to help educate their children.

i would guess that it would only take about 6 years to see a huge difference - the time it takes for all graduating high school age and older college-ready members of the population to get through two, four, and six year degrees. by the sixth year, a huge number of college graduates with the masters degrees they need to teach grammar school and high school would be flooding the job market in underserviced neighborhoods, driving up the quality of and criteria for those selected to teach our children. in ten years the first high school class they had taught would be entering college themselves.

want an actual revolution that actually changes the world for the better? that would do it faster and more effectively than any armed uprising. not to mention the fact that problems like overpopulation, pollution, and environmental degradation also get addressed as the more educated the people are, the statistically fewer children they are likely to produce. and the ones they do produce tend to be better educated and more productive themselves.

this is one reason why obama pisses me off. everything he said in 2007-2008 would make you think he was on the same page with this. but then, he gets into office and, presto, he turns into a standard issue bureaucrat. this could have been the sixth year of that^.

oh well. not in our lifetimes i guess.
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Originally posted by: Jason Voorheees

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