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July 29 2015 5:21 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
...and then there's assholes like this guy:










American dentist says he regrets role in death of Cecil the lion July 29, 2015

(CNN) Walter Palmer, a dentist from Minnesota, says he thought everything was above board with the lion hunt he paid to go on in Zimbabwe earlier this month.

But the lion that he and his local guides hunted down and killed wasn't just any big cat, according to Zimbabwean officials.

It was Cecil, one of Africa's best known lions and a major tourist draw for Zimbabwe.

The 13-year-old black mane lion suffered a slow and painful death, according to the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force.

The hunters lured him out of Hwange National Park, the conservation group said, and Palmer then shot the lion with a bow and arrow, a method he is known for. But the arrow wasn't enough to kill Cecil, who survived for another 40 hours until the hunters tracked him down and shot him with a gun.

Police in Zimbabwe said that two Zimbabweans had been arrested over the killing of Cecil and that they were also looking for Palmer.

The Zimbabweans -- Theo Bronchorst, a professional hunter, and Honest Trymore Ndlovu, a land owner -- were due in court Wednesday, according to a statement from the Zimbabwe Parks and Wildlife Management Authority and Safari Operators Association of Zimbabwe.

Investigations suggest the killing of Cecil was illegal because the land owner "was not allocated a lion on his hunting quota for 2015," the statement said.

"All persons implicated in this case are due to appear in court facing poaching charges," it said.

Officials said they believed Palmer had paid between $50,000 and $55,000 for the hunt to kill the lion.

The dentist said in his statement that no authorities in Zimbabwe or the United States had contacted him but that he would assist them in any inquiries.

"I deeply regret that my pursuit of an activity I love and practice responsibly and legally resulted in the taking of this lion," Palmer said.

But Cecil's killing doesn't appear to be the first time Palmer has got into trouble while hunting.

A man by the same name and age, and from the same town, illegally killed a black bear in Wisconsin several years ago, according to court documents.

That individual pleaded guilty to knowingly making false statements to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and was sentenced to one year on probation and ordered to pay a fine of nearly $3,000, records show.

A New York Times article in 2009 that profiled Palmer and his hunting methods said that he had served a year of probation over the false statements case.

Cecil's death this month is likely to have a damaging effect on his pride, officials said.

"The saddest part of all is that, now that Cecil is dead, the next lion in the hierarchy, Jericho will most likely kill all Cecil's cubs so that he can insert his own bloodline into the females," the Zimbabwe Conservation Force said.

"This is standard procedure for lions," it warned.

Compounding the problem, "the females of the pride could die trying to defend those young," said Jeff Flocken, the North American regional director for the International Fund for Animal Welfare.

African lion populations have fallen almost 60% over the past three decades according to the International Fund for Animal Welfare.




(Cecil, seen here a few months before being killed by Walter Palmer)
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July 29 2015 6:53 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
You are a cunt if you pay money (or even if you don't) to specifically kill an animal that is known to be on the endangered list or on the verge of getting there. There is no need to hunt these animals other than the thrill of the kill, which is a selfish and sadistic reason. Obviously as an ethical vegetarian and an animal rights supporter, I'm not for hunting at all, but there is a big difference than going into the woods in PA and shooting a deer that is arguably overpopulated and going to the safari of Africa and hunting something just to kill it.


I hope this guy gets sent back to Zimbabwe and receives some sort of criminal punishment for this nonsense.
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July 29 2015 12:51 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Think of all the actual good he could have done with the money this piece of human shit spent to go to another country and kill an animal to stroke his own pathetic ego.
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August 2 2015 9:17 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
...and another one surfaces:








Cecil may be the most recent lion to die at the hands of an American trophy hunter this year but, on Sunday, authorities in Zimbabwe revealed he was not the first.

Wildlife officials there have accused a second American, Pennsylvania doctor and bow hunter Jan Seski, of killing another lion back in April, saying his local-based guide "hunted without a quota and a permit."

The guide was arrested and officials say he's cooperating. Seski is a cancer doctor in Pittsburgh, but today at his home no one answered and NBC News has not been able to reach him for comment.

Seski was named by Zimbabwe as a client of Nyala Safaris, owned by a landowner who has been arrested on accusations of conducting an illegal hunt.


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August 2 2015 9:25 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Cancer doctor or not, if you pay to hunt down and kill an animal on the other side of the world for your enjoyment, you are a monster.
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August 4 2015 9:45 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Major Airlines are banning kill trophies from their flights. It's not the biggest victory, but a victory nonetheless.



Also, in a related topic, the Idaho "Ag-gag" was deemed unconstitutional. Hopefully other states follow suit and a ton of pressure gets put on the factory farming industry to change their practices.
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August 4 2015 11:38 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
...and:








Sabrina Corgatelli, an accountant for Idaho State University, appeared on NBC's "Today" show on Monday to defend trophy hunting amid mounting international outrage over last month's killing of Cecil, Zimbabwe's most famous lion, by an American dentist.

"Giraffes are very dangerous animals. They could hurt you seriously, very quickly," Corgatelli said in the nationally televised interview.

Corgatelli first drew attention from a series of photos circulated via her Facebook account that showed her standing proudly with various animals she bagged in South Africa, including an impala, a warthog and a wildebeest.
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"Giraffes are very dangerous animals." is something I never thought I'd hear as a serious statement.
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August 4 2015 11:54 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Rats in the walls

...and:








Sabrina Corgatelli, an accountant for Idaho State University, appeared on NBC's "Today" show on Monday to defend trophy hunting amid mounting international outrage over last month's killing of Cecil, Zimbabwe's most famous lion, by an American dentist.

"Giraffes are very dangerous animals. They could hurt you seriously, very quickly," Corgatelli said in the nationally televised interview.

Corgatelli first drew attention from a series of photos circulated via her Facebook account that showed her standing proudly with various animals she bagged in South Africa, including an impala, a warthog and a wildebeest.
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I watched an interview with this dumb woman and all she could say to defend herself was, "it's legal."
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August 4 2015 11:55 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: WREN

"Giraffes are very dangerous animals." is something I never thought I'd hear as a serious statement.



Ha, I forgot about that, she sounded so fucking stupid. Like, really, lady? Giraffes aren't coming into your home and eating babies.
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August 10 2015 9:17 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
also, this, which is emblematic of one of the fundamental problems with most people's attitude toward the non-human world: what's the point of even having wilderness areas if wildlife is punished for being wild?












Yellowstone Grizzly Bears Involved In Hiker's Death To Be Euthanized When Caught 8/9/15 AP

Authorities believe a Montana man who went missing in Yellowstone National Park on Friday was killed by a grizzly bear, according to a statement released by the National Park Service.

The victim, whose name was not provided, was described as an “experienced hiker” who had lived and worked in the park for five seasons, the statement said. A park ranger found him partially consumed a half-mile from the Elephant Back Loop Trail in a “popular off-trail area he was known to frequent,” the statement said.

Although the exact cause of the man’s death is under investigation, the victim’s body had defensive wounds on his forearms, the statement said. Based on partial tracks found at the scene, authorities believe an adult female grizzly and at least one cub had probably been involved in the incident. Park rangers and wildlife biologists have been at the scene gathering evidence for bear DNA recovery, although heavy rains have made the effort more difficult, the statement said.

“We may not be able to conclusively determine the circumstances of this bear attack, but we will not risk public safety,” Yellowstone National Park Superintendent Dan Wenk said.

Wildlife biologists set bear traps in the area on Friday evening. If trapped and linked to the attack, the animals will be euthanized, the statement said.




while this is obviously sad whenever it occurs, hikers should have to sign a 'non-retaliation' waiver or something if they choose to trot their birkenstocks through the habitat of top predators. it's supposed to be their house; how do you fault a top predator for acting like a top predator in its own habitat, i.e. eating anything smaller than itself? and considering them a threat because of that b-movie yarn about carnivores 'getting a taste for human blood' has been discredited by all actual research. they're top predators, they already have a taste for human blood, and all blood for that matter. a kill like this was likely one of opportunity; this guy probably stumbled on a mother and her cub, maybe even got between them somehow, but whatever the case, they weren't doing anything wrong or outside their 'nature'. sucks.
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August 10 2015 9:35 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
They do that shit with gators in the Everglades as well.
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August 10 2015 11:37 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
yup, completely unnecessary, and only serves to perpetuate the misconception.
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August 10 2015 11:38 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
so this is probably happening today or this week:


Rangers Catch Grizzly Suspected in Yellowstone Hiker Death
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August 10 2015 2:03 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Not to say that I agree, but I think bears are euthanized after getting into a cabin or killing a person because that particular bear now sees those as sources of food, which is dangerous to humans.
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