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May 6 2010 4:08 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
about time. I hope he saved some money. I don't see him playing ball again.

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May 6 2010 4:10 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
i doubt anyone will bring him into camp, and if they do they'll expect him to take the league minimum, but he's too prideful.

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May 6 2010 4:13 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
prideful?

the dude played out of shape his whole career, fell asleep in meetings, openly told teammates he's more comfortable as a backup, and so many other things to indicate everything BUT pride.
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May 6 2010 4:20 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Joe Boccuto

prideful?

the dude played out of shape his whole career, fell asleep in meetings, openly told teammates he's more comfortable as a backup, and so many other things to indicate everything BUT pride.



pride- a high or inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, merit, or superiority, whether as cherished in the mind or as displayed in bearing, conduct, etc.

maybe prideful was the wrong word. Not pride in the traditional knight-like sense. More like, he thinks he is too good, regardless of his performance, to play as anything other than a starter and for an above average to high nfl qb salary.
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May 6 2010 6:56 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
But he has openly said he's more comfortable as a backup. In the NFL you cannot be a backup and demand starter money. I am sure he'd be much happier making a league minimum $450k a year sitting around doing nothing than having to go and do actual work, since I am sure he's also made terrible investments.
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May 7 2010 5:11 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Maybe he'll go to the Vikings, line up next to Shiancoe
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May 7 2010 5:15 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
they have russell as the new #1 biggest draft bust of all time. i agree. leaf and russell have similar stats but when you add the money the raiders paid into him it puts hm in front of leaf.

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May 7 2010 9:29 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Good luck in the CFL Jamarcus
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May 7 2010 11:28 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: cuntbreath

Good luck in the CFL Jamarcus



I went to the Baltimore Mariners / Harrisburg Stampede (AIFA) game last weekend. The QB on Harrisburg was Jamarcus Russell. Looked and played just like him. very scary.
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May 8 2010 1:32 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
It was terrible drafting at its finest. Russell never showed that he had the tools to even be successful in the NFL. I bet even Tebow will develop into something better than Russell.
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May 8 2010 1:02 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: DarkHorseDeviant

It was terrible drafting at its finest. Russell never showed that he had the tools to even be successful in the NFL. I bet even Tebow will develop into something better than Russell.



Robert Gallery, Michael Huff, Darren McFadden, Russel, Darius Heyward-Bey

some fantastic first-round drafting by mr Al Davis this decade.
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May 8 2010 1:43 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
he will never start again.
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May 8 2010 6:59 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Joe Boccuto

Originally posted by: DarkHorseDeviant

It was terrible drafting at its finest. Russell never showed that he had the tools to even be successful in the NFL. I bet even Tebow will develop into something better than Russell.



Robert Gallery, Michael Huff, Darren McFadden, Russel, Darius Heyward-Bey

some fantastic first-round drafting by mr Al Davis this decade.



But.. all players that could have had some success given a better organization with better trainers.
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May 8 2010 7:49 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
I don't know about ALL

Michael Huff doesn't care, Russell doesn't care, and Heyward Bey was so overdrafted it's not funny.

McFadden is made of glass.

Really only Gallery can be arguably say "well maybe he would have done better somewhere else"
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May 8 2010 8:14 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Huff could be more solid in a better system on a better team. Maybe even if its just situational.

Russell, I think, still needs a lot of work and has had the unfortunate luck of being stuck on a terrible team with a revolving door for coaches. Case in point, Alex Smith. Different offense and coaches every season, nobody can play consistently under those circumstances. But I also cite the case of Randy Moss. A guy that didnt care at all when he was on the Raiders. He gets moved and suddenly has NFL records under his belt.

Heyward-Bey is.. a 4th slot WR on his best days, should've been a later rounder.

McFadden, I dont know about. Most average running backs could do good behind a great offensive line, which he doesn't have. I think he has the physical skill set to be a good asset in a 2-back system but again, the Raiders don't have much offensively to support anything.

Gallery is okay. He's another guy with good natural ability but he's part of a struggling offensive line on a terrible team. I have no doubt that he'd step up his game elsewhere.

I could be wrong about all of these, but I'm also a firm believer in the philosophy that most talented college players can play well in the NFL if they are brought up in the right system under the right coaches.
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