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August 22 2010 11:18 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
This fuckin guy
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August 23 2010 8:02 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
mvp
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August 23 2010 8:39 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
He will be a force for years
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August 23 2010 9:24 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Dude is a beast
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August 23 2010 11:06 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Yeah, he's no joke. I think if Howard didn't go down on the DL he'd probably be up there right now with him. Definitely not for AVG, but HR and RBI. Hell, Howard is still third in the NL for RBIs, after being down for over two weeks.
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August 23 2010 7:04 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
if the season ended today i would give it to adrian gonzales in the NL and robinson cano in the AL

both are leading their leagues in the wins above replacement stat, which is like a quarterback rating for baseball players. this is the single most important stat in figuring out who is the actualy most valuable player.

here's a twist - zack grienke should have won the AL MVP last year. he had a WAR of 9.0, which is nuts
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August 23 2010 7:40 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
on a team that lost almost 100 games
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August 23 2010 7:41 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
and?
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August 23 2010 7:44 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
I think its stupid to say a player on a last place team deserved league mvp. I dont care what stat you use
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August 23 2010 7:45 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
surely the fact that a player on a consistently bad team has such good stats makes it even more impressive?
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August 23 2010 7:47 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
hence the cy young award he won
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August 23 2010 7:48 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: fight2live

I think its stupid to say a player on a last place team deserved league mvp. I dont care what stat you use


terrible ass-backwards way to look at things
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August 23 2010 7:50 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
then why didnt he win it?
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August 23 2010 7:53 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
because most sports writers would never vote a pitcher for the mvp unless he has a ridiculous bob gibson/steve carlton/roger clemens type year

sportswriters also gave justin morneau the mvp in a year where he was actually like the 20th best player in the AL so obviously the whole process is flawed and retarded
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August 23 2010 7:54 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
royce clayton for mvp
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August 23 2010 7:56 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: ass nipples

carlos ruiz for mvp

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