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crunkmoose @ September 8, 2015 9:59 AM
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I'll like this guy a hell of a lot more when he has the vatican sell the golden throne he doesn't want to sit on and use the money to help the poor and sick.
Rats in the walls @ September 19, 2015 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by: crunkmoose

I'll like this guy a hell of a lot more when






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The Pope Needs to Change the Climate on Contraception


by Ronald A. Lindsay 06/17/2015


It is very likely that Pope Francis will issue an encyclical Thursday that will endorse the scientific consensus that the earth is warming and that this change in climate is caused in large part by greenhouse gases generated by human activity. One cheer for the pope! All things considered, it obviously is a good thing that the pope recognizes the reality of climate change.

Unfortunately, when it comes to proposing remedies for the problem, the pope ignores one of the principal underlying causes, not just for global warming, but for other looming ecological disasters.

The pope will apparently recommend reduction in the use of fossil fuels. Sure, yes, that will help and virtually everyone agrees that should be done. Of course, how to bring about this reduction in fossil fuels without adverse economic consequences is a subject of much debate, and here, apparently, the pope has nothing to offer but nostrums. Exhortations to lead a simpler life and a call for richer nations to assist poorer nations in the transition away from fossil fuels sound more like wishful thinking than practical solutions.

There is one very practical measure, immediately realizable and eminently feasible that is, as it were, staring the pope right in the face: The pope should not only end the Catholic Church's morally absurd and repugnant opposition to contraception, but should urge all families to engage in responsible family planning.

Reducing population growth would have a substantial positive effect on the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. One persuasive scientific analysis indicates that reducing population growth could help achieve 37 percent to 41 percent of the targeted reduction in emissions by the end of the century. This paper also pointed out that "there is a substantial unmet need for family planning and reproductive health services in many countries."

But a dangerously warming climate is not the only adverse effect resulting from substantial increases in population. Just yesterday, a study was released indicating that the majority of the globe's largest aquifers were rapidly depleting. "The aquifers under the most stress are in poor, densely populated regions, such as northwest India, Pakistan and North Africa" according to the report. In January of this year, eighteen scientists published a paper in the journal Science, which indicated that human societies had already caused four of nine "planetary boundaries" to be crossed, with the other five under threat. (The four crossed boundaries relate to the extinction rate for plant and animal species, the contamination of oceans through runoff of nitrogen and phosphorus (from fertilizers), climate change resulting from the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and deforestation.) Crossing these boundaries threatens to destroy the stability of our environment and with it, the sustainability of human life (not to mention other forms of life).

We are over seven billion people now, with many more on the way. Even if we reduce consumption of fossil fuels, we will still be drinking water, using fertilizers to increase crop yields to feed ourselves, and cutting down forests to create fields in which to raise these crops. Substantially more people very likely will result in increasing use of our natural resources and increased damage to the environment from that use.

No, I don't have a problem when the pope endorses scientific findings. But before the pope lectures us on our moral responsibilities with respect to the environment, he should take a hard look at himself and his Church. The Church's morally indefensible stand against contraception has caused much harm already and threatens to cause even more serious harm in the future. Removing the Catholic Church's opposition to contraception will help the environment much more than telling everyone to ride bicycles.





Davey. @ September 19, 2015 5:24 AM
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nobodygotstylelikeus @ September 19, 2015 7:17 AM
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Yeah, that's a little much.

It's been quoted so I can't say much about making it go away. I hope he is deleted by the powers to be whenever they wake up. (6 hours from now)
crunkmoose @ September 21, 2015 9:16 AM
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Originally posted by: Rats in the walls

Originally posted by: crunkmoose

I'll like this guy a hell of a lot more when






Originally posted by: Rats in the walls


The Pope Needs to Change the Climate on Contraception


by Ronald A. Lindsay 06/17/2015


It is very likely that Pope Francis will issue an encyclical Thursday that will endorse the scientific consensus that the earth is warming and that this change in climate is caused in large part by greenhouse gases generated by human activity. One cheer for the pope! All things considered, it obviously is a good thing that the pope recognizes the reality of climate change.

Unfortunately, when it comes to proposing remedies for the problem, the pope ignores one of the principal underlying causes, not just for global warming, but for other looming ecological disasters.

The pope will apparently recommend reduction in the use of fossil fuels. Sure, yes, that will help and virtually everyone agrees that should be done. Of course, how to bring about this reduction in fossil fuels without adverse economic consequences is a subject of much debate, and here, apparently, the pope has nothing to offer but nostrums. Exhortations to lead a simpler life and a call for richer nations to assist poorer nations in the transition away from fossil fuels sound more like wishful thinking than practical solutions.

There is one very practical measure, immediately realizable and eminently feasible that is, as it were, staring the pope right in the face: The pope should not only end the Catholic Church's morally absurd and repugnant opposition to contraception, but should urge all families to engage in responsible family planning.

Reducing population growth would have a substantial positive effect on the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. One persuasive scientific analysis indicates that reducing population growth could help achieve 37 percent to 41 percent of the targeted reduction in emissions by the end of the century. This paper also pointed out that "there is a substantial unmet need for family planning and reproductive health services in many countries."

But a dangerously warming climate is not the only adverse effect resulting from substantial increases in population. Just yesterday, a study was released indicating that the majority of the globe's largest aquifers were rapidly depleting. "The aquifers under the most stress are in poor, densely populated regions, such as northwest India, Pakistan and North Africa" according to the report. In January of this year, eighteen scientists published a paper in the journal Science, which indicated that human societies had already caused four of nine "planetary boundaries" to be crossed, with the other five under threat. (The four crossed boundaries relate to the extinction rate for plant and animal species, the contamination of oceans through runoff of nitrogen and phosphorus (from fertilizers), climate change resulting from the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, and deforestation.) Crossing these boundaries threatens to destroy the stability of our environment and with it, the sustainability of human life (not to mention other forms of life).

We are over seven billion people now, with many more on the way. Even if we reduce consumption of fossil fuels, we will still be drinking water, using fertilizers to increase crop yields to feed ourselves, and cutting down forests to create fields in which to raise these crops. Substantially more people very likely will result in increasing use of our natural resources and increased damage to the environment from that use.

No, I don't have a problem when the pope endorses scientific findings. But before the pope lectures us on our moral responsibilities with respect to the environment, he should take a hard look at himself and his Church. The Church's morally indefensible stand against contraception has caused much harm already and threatens to cause even more serious harm in the future. Removing the Catholic Church's opposition to contraception will help the environment much more than telling everyone to ride bicycles.








Agreed. My point was a more general one.. that the pope needs to get down to more than just superficial change that makes him look good but will likely be gone with the next pope.
WREN @ September 21, 2015 9:33 AM
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Originally posted by: nobodygotstylelikeus

Yeah, that's a little much.

It's been quoted so I can't say much about making it go away. I hope he is deleted by the powers to be whenever they wake up. (6 hours from now)




I deleted it and edited Davey's post. But clearly that was a weak attempt at being shocking. Went for an easy target in the hopes of getting a rise out of people. I don't have time for cowards that try to poke fun at the death of my friend, who was a better person than he could ever be.
Carlo_HC @ September 21, 2015 11:41 AM
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who was deleted?
WREN @ September 21, 2015 11:45 AM
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No one important.
crunkmoose @ September 22, 2015 9:12 AM
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Originally posted by: WREN

Originally posted by: nobodygotstylelikeus

Yeah, that's a little much.

It's been quoted so I can't say much about making it go away. I hope he is deleted by the powers to be whenever they wake up. (6 hours from now)




I deleted it and edited Davey's post. But clearly that was a weak attempt at being shocking. Went for an easy target in the hopes of getting a rise out of people. I don't have time for cowards that try to poke fun at the death of my friend, who was a better person than he could ever be.



Dang... I did not know about anyone dying. Sorry to hear that.. and that some assbag on here decided to try to make a joke about it.
Rats in the walls @ February 10, 2016 10:55 AM
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this awful zika epidemic could have one silver lining if it became a tipping point for the church to lift its ban on contraception:



Zika prompts urgent debate about abortion in Latin America

washingtonpost.com

RIO DE JANEIRO — Across Latin America, calls to loosen some of the most restrictive abortion laws in the world in the face of the Zika virus outbreak are gaining momentum but encountering strong and entrenched opposition.

In El Salvador, where abortions are banned under any circumstance, the health minister has argued for a revision of the law because of the dangers the virus poses to fetal development.

In Colombia, an organized movement to lift restrictions on abortion has gained allies in the government but has run into determined opposition from religious authorities. The same is happening in Brazil — and some doctors say that as a consequence, illegal, back-alley abortions are on the rise.

Nearly everywhere in Latin America, including in those countries hit hardest by Zika, women who wish to terminate their pregnancies have few legal options. But as U.N. health officials have projected as many as 4 million infections in the Americas this year, activists are pressing lawmakers to act as swiftly as possible to ease rigid restrictions.

Several governments in Latin American nations have responded to the crisis by urging women to postpone pregnancy. But the availability of contraceptives is limited, especially in rural Latin America, and church authorities in the heavily Roman Catholic region oppose their use.


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crunkmoose @ February 11, 2016 12:10 PM
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It won't. The Church doesn't care about human lives. It cares about enforcing dogma. If anything this will make it even more important for the church to be even more extreme on the use of contraception. Their belief is that conception and health problems for child or mother are the result of god's will. I would be surprised if we didn't see a few threats of excommunication over this, especially for any clergy who push for changes.
sausage hero @ April 16, 2018 3:11 AM
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