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Philthy Vegan
12/27/2006 12:47:00 PM
Does a Higher IQ Equal Meat-Free?

A new study shows that ten-year-olds with higher IQs are more likely to be vegetarians at 30. A vegetarian diet is linked to lower cholesterol, so it seems the smart choice:


Brainy Kids May Become Vegetarians

By Miranda Hitti
WebMD Medical News Reviewed By Louise Chang, MD
on Thursday, December 14, 2006


Dec. 14, 2006 -- Ten-year-olds with higher IQ scores may be more likely to be vegetarians at age 30.

So say British researchers including Catharine Gale, PhD, a senior research fellow at England's University of Southampton.

They studied 8,170 men and women who were born in the U.K. in 1970.

Participants took an IQ test when they were 10 years old. Twenty years later, they were asked whether they were currently vegetarians.

The vast majority said they weren't vegetarians, but 366 said they were.

They included nine vegans (who eat no animal products, such as meat, dairy products, and eggs) and 123 people who called themselves vegetarians despite eating fish and chicken.

Those with higher IQ scores at age 10 were more likely to be vegetarians at age 30. The difference in IQ points was about five points, the study shows. There was no difference in IQ score between strict vegetarians and the vegetarians who ate fish or chicken.

The results held when Gale's team took participants' income, social class, and education into consideration.

It's not clear how long participants had been vegetarians, or what (if any) relationship vegetarianism has to IQ scores.

The study appears online in BMJ, formerly called the British Medical Journal.

The journal notes that of the four researchers who worked on the study, two say they're "lapsed" vegetarians, one is a "committed" vegetarian, and one calls himself an "omnivore," meaning he eats meat as well as plants.

Three of the researchers say they've never taken an IQ test. The fourth (the omnivore) "opts not to disclose" his IQ, the journal states.

Sarcastic Existence
12/27/2006 12:55:00 PM
Way to jump the gun on the vegan part.

"There was no difference in IQ score between strict vegetarians and the vegetarians who ate fish or chicken."

That, and IQ isn't the be all, end all of how smart you are.

edit: The thread names used to say Boo-yah! Vegans are smarter...or something to that effect.
Philthy Vegan
12/27/2006 1:00:00 PM
..what vegan part?
Philthy Vegan
12/27/2006 1:02:00 PM
^Ah, I see what you are talking about. I just copied that from my message to my friend and that part was copied by accident.
Philthy Vegan
12/27/2006 1:28:00 PM
double-post.
coastal elite
12/27/2006 1:34:00 PM
False logic really is the best logic, isn't it?

Nowhere did it say "all vegetarians are smarter." It said, "some smart kids end up being vegetarian." Being veggie doesn't make you smarter.
Philthy Vegan
12/27/2006 1:55:00 PM
Good lord, I don't 100% truthfully believe that! I accidently copied and pasted the wrong thing for my tittle.
CARCILLOs MOLESTACHE
12/27/2006 3:24:00 PM
"and the vegetarians who ate fish or chicken."

*bangs head against desk repeatedly*
Elliot
12/30/2006 10:15:00 PM
Originally posted by: GO VEGAN!

"and the vegetarians who ate fish or chicken."

*bangs head against desk repeatedly*

Thats what I was getting at. I don't think eating dairy is "real" vegetarian(this is just my veiw)...but people eating fish and CHICKEN calling themselves vegetarian is ridculous...
aboutleaving
1/1/2007 3:21:00 PM
I find it interesting. I don't think it means that smart people become vegetarians because they're smart, I'm sure there's a bunch of reasons that are impossible to prove. Maybe they are more likely to become aware of a cause, and so a larger proportion take it on.

They found out that in this country something like 80% of all pro. atheletes were born within the first 2 months of school year, making them bigger/stronger/more likely to get picked, which means they enjoy/pursue it. I can't remember any stats but some of them are actually pretty shocking.
carl0
1/1/2007 6:09:00 PM
I'm thinking they could have undertaken a less pointless demographic study.
viva hate
1/1/2007 6:10:00 PM
nice generalizing "study". shouldn't it just be smarter people are more prone to eat healthier?

also, what about all the studies that IQ tests are kinda bunk? it's just a potential comprehension test. it's not always "higher iq=smart".
aboutleaving
1/1/2007 6:58:00 PM
I think the study's interesting but the person who posted it probably is reading way too much into it.
Philthy Vegan
1/2/2007 10:56:00 AM
Originally posted by:Elliot

Originally posted by: GO VEGAN!

"and the vegetarians who ate fish or chicken."

*bangs head against desk repeatedly*

Thats what I was getting at. I don't think eating dairy is "real" vegetarian(this is just my veiw)...but people eating fish and CHICKEN calling themselves vegetarian is ridculous...


So fucking true. The so-called "pescaterians(sp?)" .. so dumb. I think at that point you just have a food preference, that's all!
drunkship
1/10/2007 1:01:00 PM
Originally posted by: Philthy Vegan

Originally posted by:Elliot

Originally posted by: GO VEGAN!

"and the vegetarians who ate fish or chicken."

*bangs head against desk repeatedly*

Thats what I was getting at. I don't think eating dairy is "real" vegetarian(this is just my veiw)...but people eating fish and CHICKEN calling themselves vegetarian is ridculous...


So fucking true. The so-called "pescaterians(sp?)" .. so dumb. I think at that point you just have a food preference, that's all!


Honestly it's all just a matter of food preference in the long run, regardless if it's governed by a moral ethos. Objectively all diets or 'food preferences' are selfish, even meatless diets that people take up under banners of altruism. Meatless diets in some instances could be reactionary to suffering of other animals, but in the end it is a truly selfish motive because the practitioner feels uncomfortable using animal products and has a specific desire to put themselves at comfort through personal behavioral changes. Ultimately a switch to a meatless diet is commonly a selfish way of alleviating any personal psychological discomfort experienced by using animal products or by supporting the industry that procures them. Of course a switch to a meatless diet could be for nutritional motives as well, which are still just as selfish. Consider for a moment though, that selfishness isn't really such a dirty word and that just because you don't eat animals doesn't mean you necessarily have to give a fuck about them, despite what we are lead to believe.
numero uno
1/10/2007 1:07:00 PM
fish is brain food.