hey exercise oriented people! question... 44 replies, 28369 views

thisgirldesire
5/12/2010 2:15:00 AM
my joints (knees, ankles) hurt like a motherfucker during/after running. most of this is probably from 15+ years of abuse from dancing on a terrible surface, but i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for supplements/vitamins, etc to keep everything moving properly and not sideline me because my joints feel like i'm 85.
RightBetweenTheEyes
5/12/2010 2:16:00 AM
Glucosamine chondroiton for sure
yantastic
5/12/2010 2:21:00 AM
Also cocks, lol
Jim McGuire
5/12/2010 5:12:00 AM
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WREN
5/12/2010 7:58:00 AM
It all depends on how bad it is.

Something simple like getting better sneakers might be the solution. Specifically buy running shoes.

Glucosamine is worth looking into but I heard that it's pretty inconsistent. Doctors precribe it to people with arthritis but it's not a garauntee cure by any means.

Adding either a Fish Oil or Flax Seed Oil supplement to your diet would definitely help. It has anti-inflammatory effects to go along with all the other benefits (i.e. good for cardio system, brain, immune function, cancer prevention).

If the pain is real bad, you probably should talk to a doctor. I used to get shin splints really bad in school because during track practice alot of times I'd just train in my airwalks which have no support when it comes to running. He did the simple thing of suggesting new sneakers for day to day use and stop training in shoes not meant for track. But on the flipside, you could find out like a friend of mine that you need surgery. But better to find out the cause than just make it worse.
WREN
5/12/2010 8:00:00 AM
that's actually not a bad suggestion either.

or if you want to still run in a way, try the eliptical or the crosstrainers (machines that look like you are cross-country skiing). They definitely take out alot of the joint impact.
the cat
5/12/2010 8:01:00 AM
GC works. Running on your toes/balls-o-feet will work better.
cbrickhouse
5/12/2010 9:50:00 AM
fish oil works magic.
thisgirldesire
5/12/2010 10:13:00 AM
the thought of fish oil grosses me out.

it's definitely not a pain that i get every time i do it. it's pretty hit or miss, so i'm not sure if it's just fatigue or something else.

eliptical machines cause too much bounce for my chest to handle. i don't know how people can go at that for an hour. and i'm pretty sure that running on the balls of your toes is not the right way to run unless you're in a fairy 5k. that amount of pressure on the ball of your foot radiates straight through your ankles, to your knees and up. not good.

i'm going to hold off on the doctor for now. the pain isn't lingering/persistent enough for it to worry me. they'd probably just tell me to take some ibuprofin and suck it up.

i'm sure that me being broke isn't helping my diet at all, which is probably also part of the problem.
WREN
5/12/2010 10:18:00 AM
When you run you are suppose to land heel first and kind of roll your foot. the pushoff is off the balls, the impact is more on the heels.

Fish Oil isn't bad. It's taken in pill form. The only time you'll have a problem with it is for like the first two days at most. If you burp it up, it will taste like a marina in your mouth for a second but it's not vomit inducing. After that, I guess your stomach gets used to it and you'll never have the problem again. If you are that worried about it though, look into Flax Seed Oil pills. If there is a Vitamin Shoppe near you, I suggest getting the store brand flax seed. Shit even a CVS store brand is fine. No scense in spending extra loot for the same stuff.

Watch with Ibuprofen. You'll develop a tolerance too it. Ibuprofen is pretty much the only medicine that I take and I only use it when i feel that its absolutely necessary.
WREN
5/12/2010 10:20:00 AM
Originally posted by: FunshinePa

It is proven you can get the same benefit from walking. Why not switch it to a fast paced walk instead? And prepare yourself mentally, that as we age, the more we want to stay active, the more gripes and pains we're gonna have. :-)


walking takes much, much longer to accomplish any of the goals that simple jogging/running can do.
Yodel Toast
5/12/2010 10:21:00 AM
I feel your pain, all those years of ballet and gymnastics on a gym floor have my ankles and knees and hips in the worst shape.

get a pair of those rebok easy tones, they've worked wonders for me. I just go on an hour powerwalk a day and I'm getting better results than I did on the eliptical for an hour every day.

swimming also is great.

I highly reccommend fish oil like chris and wren said. After taking it for a few weeks my joints weren't half as bad as they were before. if you can't stomach the horse pill, trader joes and whole foods have gummy fish oil supplements that are delicious and taste just like a gummy snack.
Otzi
5/12/2010 10:25:00 AM
Originally posted by: WREN

When you run you are suppose to land heel first and kind of roll your foot. the pushoff is off the balls, the impact is more on the heels.

Most people impact the heel too hard. I don't run very often but after I started running barefoot/with vibram five fingers/nike frees, your heel barely even comes into it. Your calves get a crazy workout until you get used to running like that. I also hike with those shoes and I can tell a huge difference in foot/ankle/knee strength and my knees don't get as sore anymore.
Yodel Toast
5/12/2010 10:25:00 AM
Originally posted by: FunshinePa

Originally posted by: WREN

Originally posted by: FunshinePa

It is proven you can get the same benefit from walking. Why not switch it to a fast paced walk instead? And prepare yourself mentally, that as we age, the more we want to stay active, the more gripes and pains we're gonna have. :-)


walking takes much, much longer to accomplish any of the goals that simple jogging/running can do.

Maybe so but not that much. But for someone who is having pain while running, they can resort to walking. Or even stationary bike. You can go as fast as ya want. Was only suggesting an alternative if someone wants to stay active.

whenever I want to get back into a running routine, I always start with powerwalking for a few weeks until I feel strong enough to start jogging/running again. I think you had a good suggestion.
Jess.
5/12/2010 10:27:00 AM
Originally posted by: thisgirldesire
eliptical machines cause too much bounce for my chest to handle. i don't know how people can go at that for an hour.

get an actual sports bra from a sports store, not a cheap one. I assure you that it will change your world. Also, I use the Arc Trainer instead of the eliptical. It seems to be a better work out.
WREN
5/12/2010 10:27:00 AM
you are fucking nuts if you think it's not that much.

you walk for 10 minutes and i'll run. lets see the calorie difference. not to mention the overall improvement in cardio conditioning.

Yes walking is better than nothing but i'd recommend swimming or a bike over just walking any day of the week.
cbrickhouse
5/12/2010 10:31:00 AM
Originally posted by: thisgirldesire

the thought of fish oil grosses me out.

they come in pills. you will never taste fish.
WREN
5/12/2010 10:32:00 AM
why the "..." you said that the difference in walking and running isn't much. I'm telling you, you are wrong.

My hobby of choice (combat sports) is all about cardio conditioning. If I just walked for my conditioning training, i'd gas out in a minute of a fight.
Yodel Toast
5/12/2010 10:32:00 AM
Originally posted by: cbrickhouse

Originally posted by: thisgirldesire

the thought of fish oil grosses me out.

they come in pills. you will never taste fish.

the gummies are way better. and are still 1000mg.

I take the pills, but I know some people have a hard time opening that bottle of pills because it smells fucking terrible.
cbrickhouse
5/12/2010 10:33:00 AM
Originally posted by: Jess.

Originally posted by: thisgirldesire
eliptical machines cause too much bounce for my chest to handle. i don't know how people can go at that for an hour.

get an actual sports bra from a sports store, not a cheap one. I assure you that it will change your world. Also, I use the Arc Trainer instead of the eliptical. It seems to be a better work out.

using the arc trainer for 45 minutes without using your hands to balance you is a hard ass workout.
WREN
5/12/2010 10:33:00 AM
Who sticks their face right into the bottle though? You really have to get close to the bottle to really smell it. Putting the bottle in the fridge will also help reduce the smell coming from the bottle but I wouldn't do that.
Yodel Toast
5/12/2010 10:34:00 AM
Originally posted by: WREN

why the "..." you said that the difference in walking and running isn't much. I'm telling you, you are wrong.

My hobby of choice (combat sports) is all about cardio conditioning. If I just walked for my conditioning training, i'd gas out in a minute of a fight.

Wren, you have to take into consideration that you are doing MMA fighting, and that training for that is much more intense than just regular exercise to stay in shape. I would seriously die if I tried one of your workouts and I'm a pretty healthy person.

And I have a sensitive nose, I open the bottle and I can smell it immediately. haha.
cbrickhouse
5/12/2010 10:34:00 AM
Originally posted by: Yodel Toast

I take the pills, but I know some people have a hard time opening that bottle of pills because it smells fucking terrible.

? i have never once smelled any sort of smell from my pills while still in the bottle
Yodel Toast
5/12/2010 10:36:00 AM
haha I'm a wuss when it comes to smells. very weak stomach.
WREN
5/12/2010 10:37:00 AM
Originally posted by: Yodel Toast

Originally posted by: WREN

why the "..." you said that the difference in walking and running isn't much. I'm telling you, you are wrong.

My hobby of choice (combat sports) is all about cardio conditioning. If I just walked for my conditioning training, i'd gas out in a minute of a fight.

Wren, you have to take into consideration that you are doing MMA fighting, and that training for that is much more intense than just regular exercise to stay in shape. I would seriously die if I tried one of your workouts and I'm a pretty healthy person.

I haven't always trained MMA.

My first experience with the need for cardio training was on the swim team when I was 8 years old. That is my foundation of putting cardio first. Next came track and I had a coach that was very into the idea of training your body in different ways to improve your cardio. There were days where we'd swim in the high school pool for cardio conditioning instead of stepping on the track. We'd also hit the weight room and use the stationary bikes or stairclimbers as well.

I'll walk around my development mostly out of boredom and because I'm not in the mood to really work up a real sweat.
Yodel Toast
5/12/2010 10:39:00 AM
I wish I could be as motivated as you are. And I don't know what Dianna's been doing but she's looking goooooood.