Dwarn: Re SSRIs 103 replies, 40240 views

crunkmoose
1/30/2012 1:57:00 PM
Dwarn, I am interested to hear what it is you believe SSRIs do to people. Don't just post links for me to read or watch, but say exactly what it is you think is the problem in your own words, please. I doubt you will bother to do that, though... prove me wrong.

I would also love to hear what anyone else thinks about SSRIs as far as their effects on people.
Gisty
1/30/2012 2:03:00 PM
I've read alot of the myths and facts online recently. I've known a few people personally that benefitted from them,but also some people that were effected negatively as well. One of my close friends had a reaction with another script they were taking.
crunkmoose
1/30/2012 2:09:00 PM
Well, its like any other medication.. it can have drug interactions and side effects. I've been taking Celexa for around 5 years now and the only problems I have had have been sleepiness (which might actually be because of an underactive thyroid and chronic vitamin D deficiency), grinding my teeth more at night.. which I did in the first place, and yawning a whole lot. So on the whole... far far better than the results of not taking it.
Gisty
1/30/2012 2:13:00 PM
Depending on how severe my condition were I would entertain the idea of taking something without worrying about the risks. For all I know I should probably taking something mild anyway.
LEATHERFACE
1/30/2012 2:20:00 PM
Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Well, its like any other medication.. it can have drug interactions and side effects. I've been taking Celexa for around 5 years now and the only problems I have had have been sleepiness (which might actually be because of an underactive thyroid and chronic vitamin D deficiency), grinding my teeth more at night.. which I did in the first place, and yawning a whole lot. So on the whole... far far better than the results of not taking it.

I used to take Celexa back in the day (truth be told I should probably still be taking it)
Didymos
1/31/2012 11:21:00 AM
I was raped by SSRI's. And it hurt.

I'd like to find some way to blame this on Obama....
carlos danger
1/31/2012 2:03:00 PM
I think it's interesting now that 20 years and 200 million prescriptions since sertraline hit the market we're seeing all this shit about birth defects and suicides. It makes you wonder--because the FDA would never approve a drug for pregnant women that causes birth defects and would never approve a drug for depressed teenagers than significantly increases risk of suicide--so either the companies didn't test the drugs well enough to know those things could happen or they knew, suppressed it, and figured they could make a few billion dollars before anyone found out.

either way it makes you wonder what all this shit is really doing to us.
crunkmoose
1/31/2012 4:15:00 PM
Originally posted by: i am skimble

I think it's interesting now that 20 years and 200 million prescriptions since sertraline hit the market we're seeing all this shit about birth defects and suicides. It makes you wonder--because the FDA would never approve a drug for pregnant women that causes birth defects and would never approve a drug for depressed teenagers than significantly increases risk of suicide--so either the companies didn't test the drugs well enough to know those things could happen or they knew, suppressed it, and figured they could make a few billion dollars before anyone found out.

either way it makes you wonder what all this shit is really doing to us.

Well, some of it comes from off-label uses.
Dwarn
2/2/2012 1:42:00 AM
Two words: Demon drugs.

Crunkmoose, have you ever watched the movie Equilibrium (2002) starring Christian Bale? A totalitarian world where emotions are illegal; the citizens are docile, devoid of passion, and fully able to rationalize their slavery as necessary. In this movie, what was the name of the government-mandated drug responsible for bringing about this situation?

"Prozium," of course.

The following is an excerpt from "The Shocking Truth About S.S.R.I. Medication (Prozac, Effexor etc.)" by Dr. Ann Blake Tracy:

"The CIA had a great interest in drugs for chemical warfare and mind control in particular...Their goal was to find a chemical which would:

1. cause a disruption in memory,
2. discredit individuals by producing aberrant behavior,
3. alter sexual patterns,
4. elicit information from the person,
5. open one's mind to suggestion for mind control, and
6. create addiction and dependence.

If the reader will turn to the chapter entitled "Patient Reports", they will find those on Prozac reporting all six of these results as reactions to the drug."


Anyway, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors suppress REM sleep, and make Stepford Humans out of once free-thinking individuals. They become people who cannot function without being externally programmed. Their brains no longer function normally; essentially, we are talking about chemical lobotomization. A mental state where defending one's programmers becomes automatic and equated with "rational behavior." People under the evil spell of SSRI's can neither seek out nor recognize deep truths about consciousness and the Self. Their brains are in a state of schism. Either only the left brain functions, or only the right brain. Never both at once. In such an unbalanced state, they are incapable of truly being individuals, and can only identify themselves through collectivist terms. The aggression builds as creativity and empathy are suppressed more and more. Eventually they attempt suicide, or, if given enough programming, murder first and then suicide.
G uNiT UgLy
2/2/2012 2:09:00 AM
Originally posted by: Dwarn

Two words: Demon drugs.



crunkmoose
2/2/2012 11:29:00 AM
Originally posted by: Dwarn

Two words: Demon drugs.

Crunkmoose, have you ever watched the movie Equilibrium (2002) starring Christian Bale? A totalitarian world where emotions are illegal; the citizens are docile, devoid of passion, and fully able to rationalize their slavery as necessary. In this movie, what was the name of the government-mandated drug responsible for bringing about this situation?

"Prozium," of course.

The following is an excerpt from "The Shocking Truth About S.S.R.I. Medication (Prozac, Effexor etc.)" by Dr. Ann Blake Tracy:

"The CIA had a great interest in drugs for chemical warfare and mind control in particular...Their goal was to find a chemical which would:

1. cause a disruption in memory,
2. discredit individuals by producing aberrant behavior,
3. alter sexual patterns,
4. elicit information from the person,
5. open one's mind to suggestion for mind control, and
6. create addiction and dependence.

If the reader will turn to the chapter entitled "Patient Reports", they will find those on Prozac reporting all six of these results as reactions to the drug."


Anyway, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors suppress REM sleep, and make Stepford Humans out of once free-thinking individuals. They become people who cannot function without being externally programmed. Their brains no longer function normally; essentially, we are talking about chemical lobotomization. A mental state where defending one's programmers becomes automatic and equated with "rational behavior." People under the evil spell of SSRI's can neither seek out nor recognize deep truths about consciousness and the Self. Their brains are in a state of schism. Either only the left brain functions, or only the right brain. Never both at once. In such an unbalanced state, they are incapable of truly being individuals, and can only identify themselves through collectivist terms. The aggression builds as creativity and empathy are suppressed more and more. Eventually they attempt suicide, or, if given enough programming, murder first and then suicide.

Okay... one problem... NONE of that actually describes me or anyone else I know who takes such medications. Aggression? Nope. Lack of creativity? I've never been accused of that and frankly I'm doing some of the best artwork of my life right now and I'm as if not more creative than ever before in my life. Certainly you'll just dismiss that as delusion (how convenient for you) and I notice that a number of the things you describe are basically not taking your crazy shit seriously... which NO ONE does whether they are on an SSRI or not.
crunkmoose
2/2/2012 3:44:00 PM
But thank you, Dwarn, for responding and (mostly) using your own words.
crunkmoose
2/3/2012 12:13:00 AM
In fact, Dwarn... I would like to know if you have ever actually met anyone like what you describe. Not simply people who disagree with you and don't believe what you believe... even people not on any drugs do that quite frequently.
Richard the 3rd
2/3/2012 8:01:00 AM
dwarn you are full of bullshit, i have beene on sertraline for the past year, and may be proscribed lithium soon. i have had no problem with an 'equillibrium' effect. i have emotion, a perfectly fine memory, but the c.i.a must consider me a sense offender, bullshit conspiracy prick
Jason Voorheees
2/3/2012 9:51:00 AM
Originally posted by: Dwarn

Two words: Demon drugs.

Crunkmoose, have you ever watched the movie Equilibrium (2002) starring Christian Bale? A totalitarian world where emotions are illegal; the citizens are docile, devoid of passion, and fully able to rationalize their slavery as necessary. In this movie, what was the name of the government-mandated drug responsible for bringing about this situation?

"Prozium," of course.

The following is an excerpt from "The Shocking Truth About S.S.R.I. Medication (Prozac, Effexor etc.)" by Dr. Ann Blake Tracy:

"The CIA had a great interest in drugs for chemical warfare and mind control in particular...Their goal was to find a chemical which would:

1. cause a disruption in memory,
2. discredit individuals by producing aberrant behavior,
3. alter sexual patterns,
4. elicit information from the person,
5. open one's mind to suggestion for mind control, and
6. create addiction and dependence.

If the reader will turn to the chapter entitled "Patient Reports", they will find those on Prozac reporting all six of these results as reactions to the drug."


Anyway, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors suppress REM sleep, and make Stepford Humans out of once free-thinking individuals. They become people who cannot function without being externally programmed. Their brains no longer function normally; essentially, we are talking about chemical lobotomization. A mental state where defending one's programmers becomes automatic and equated with "rational behavior." People under the evil spell of SSRI's can neither seek out nor recognize deep truths about consciousness and the Self. Their brains are in a state of schism. Either only the left brain functions, or only the right brain. Never both at once. In such an unbalanced state, they are incapable of truly being individuals, and can only identify themselves through collectivist terms. The aggression builds as creativity and empathy are suppressed more and more. Eventually they attempt suicide, or, if given enough programming, murder first and then suicide.



i just figured it out: dwarn is off his meds. and here i thought he was just regular crazy, but the lady doth protest to much to this. he obviously has a history with them. how could i have missed that.
Richard the 3rd
2/3/2012 10:02:00 AM
how can you show a link between ssri's and lack of creativity, my mother has been on them for the past 30 years and is a published gay rights author, i have been on them the past 2 years and continue to draw and write poetry
Dwarn
2/3/2012 11:38:00 PM
Have a look at the overwhelming, well-documented evidence. Thousands of links, indexed here:

click here for link

School Shooting    Prozac WITHDRAWAL    2008-02-15    Illinois    ** 6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
School Shooting    Prozac Antidepressant    2005-03-24    Minnesota    **10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
School Shooting    Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant    2001-03-10    Pennsylvania    **14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School
School Shooting    Zoloft Antidepressant & ADHD Med    2011-07-11    Alabama    **14 Year Old Kills Fellow Middle School Student
School Shooting    Zoloft Antidepressant    1995-10-12    South Carolina    **15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
School Shooting    Med For Depression    2009-03-13    Germany    **16 Dead Including Shooter: Antidepressant Use: Shooter in Treatment For Depression
School Hostage Situation    Med For Depression    2010-12-15    France    **17 Year Old with Sword Holds 20 Children & Teacher Hostage
School Shooting Plot    Med For Depression WITHDRAWAL    2008-08-28    Texas    **18 Year Old Plots a Columbine School Attack
School Shooting    Anafranil Antidepressant    1988-05-20    Illinois    **29 Year Old WOMAN Kills One Child: Wounds Five: Kills Self
School Shooting    Luvox/Zoloft Antidepressants    1999-04-20    Colorado    **COLUMBINE: 15 Dead: 24 Wounded
School Stabbings    Antidepressants    2001-06-09    Japan    **Eight Dead: 15 Wounded: Assailant Had Taken 10 Times his Normal Dose of Depression Med
School Shooting    Prozac Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL    1998-05-21    Oregon    **Four Dead: Twenty Injured
School Stabbing    Med For Depression    2011-10-25    Washington    **Girl, 15, Stabs Two Girls in School Restroom: 1 Is In Critical Condition
School Shooting    Antidepressant    2006-09-30    Colorado    **Man Assaults Girls: Kills One & Self
School Machete Attack    Med for Depression    2001-09-26    Pennsylvania    **Man Attacks 11 Children & 3 Teachers at Elementary School
School Shooting Related    Luvox    1993-07-23    Florida    **Man Commits Murder During Clinical Trial for Luvox: Same Drug as in COLUMBINE: Never Reported
School Hostage Situation    Cymbalta Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL    2009-11-09    New York    **Man With Gun Inside School Holds Principal Hostage
School Shooting    Antidepressants    1992-09-20    Texas    **Man, Angry Over Daughter's Report Card, Shoots 14 Rounds inside Elementary School
School Shooting    SSRI    2010-02-19    Finland    **On Sept. 23, 2008 a Finnish Student Shot & Killed 9 Students Before Killing Himself
School Shooting Threat    Med for Depression*    2004-10-19    New Jersey    **Over-Medicated Teen Brings Loaded Handguns to School
School Shooting    Antidepressant?    2007-04-18    Virginia    **Possible SSRI Use: 33 Dead at Virginia Tech
School Shooting    Antidepressant?    2002-01-17    Virginia    **Possible SSRI Withdrawal Mania: 3 Dead at Law School
School Incident/Bizarre    Zoloft*    2010-08-22    Australia    **School Counselor Exhibits Bizarre Behavior: Became Manic On Zoloft
School/Assault    Antidepressant    2009-11-04    California    **School Custodian Assaults Student & Principal: Had Manic Reaction From Depression Med
School Shooting    Prozac Antidepressant    1992-01-30    Michigan    **School Teacher Shoots & Kills His Superintendent at School
School Shooting Threats    Celexa Antidepressant    2010-01-25    Virginia    **Senior in High School Theatens to Kill 4 Classmates: Facebook Involved: Bail Denied
School Violence/Murder    Antidepressants*    1998-05-04    New York    **Sheriff's Deputy Shoots his Wife in an Elementary School
School Knifing/Murder    Meds For Depression & ADHD    2010-04-28    Massachusetts    **Sixteen Year Old Kills 15 Year Old in High School Bathroom in Sept. 2009
School Stabbing    Wellbutrin    2006-12-04    Indiana    **Stabbing by 17 Year Old At High School: Charged with Attempted Murder
School Threat    Antidepressants    2007-04-23    Mississippi    **Student Arrested for Making School Threat Over Internet
School Suspension    Lexapro Antidepressant    2007-07-28    Arkansas    **Student Has 11 Incidents with Police During his 16 Months on Lexapro
School Shooting    Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL    2007-11-07    Finland    **Student Kills 8: Wounds 10: Kills Self: High School in Finland
School Shooting    Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant    2004-02-09    New York    **Student Shoots Teacher in Leg at School
School Threat    Prozac Antidepressant    2008-01-25    Washington    **Student Takes Loaded Shotgun & 3 Rifles to School Parking Lot: Plans Suicide....

Gisty
2/3/2012 11:53:00 PM
Link wont load on my phone,but I believe some of these instances cannot be traced to the meds. I understand someone perhaps abusing them or being in withdrawal, but I don't really think everything that was posted can be directly linked to the medications.
Dwarn
2/4/2012 12:12:00 AM
(continued:)

Murder    Cymbalta Antidepressant    2011-01-13    Illinois    16 Year Old Kills Two People: At Pretrial Hearing, Discussion of Lawsuit Against Maker of Cymbalta
Suicide    Antidepressants    1997-06-22    North Carolina    16 Year Old On Antidepressants Kills Self 17 Days After Leaving Hospital
Suicide Attempt    Med For Depression    2008-09-10    Australia    16 Year Old Overdoses: Had Heart Attack: Exhibited Bizarre Behavior while on Med
Suicide    Paxil WITHDRAWAL*    2005-02-01    Canada    16 Year Old: Paxil Still in Body 2 Months After Discontinuing Drug
Murder Attempt    Paxil    2002-07-05    Canada    16-year-old Attacks A Family
Arson    Antidepressant    2005-06-29    Tennessee    17 Year Old Accepts Responsibility for Fire
Suicide Attempt    Prozac    2005-12-17    Illinois    17 Year Old and Family Sue Lilly
Murder Attempt    Med For Depression & ADHD    2011-08-11    New Hampshire    17 Year Old Attacks Sleeping Neighbors With Baseball Bat
Suicide Attempt    Prozac    2005-01-12    New Hampshire    17 Year Old Attempts Suicide
Suicide Attempt    Prozac    2006-06-14    New York    17 Year Old Attempts Suicide in Clinical Trial
Murder Attempt    Med For Depression    2010-01-23    Illinois    17 Year Old Brutally Attacks Woman With Hammer
Suicide    Med For Depression    2010-07-09    China    17 Year Old College Coed Commits Suicide
Murder    Zoloft    1997-03-16    Alabama    17 Year Old Commits Murder: Life Sentence
Suicide    Antidepressant    2003-01-31    Oregon    17 Year Old Commits Suicide
Suicide    Med For Depression    2010-09-20    New York    17 Year Old Commits Suicide
Suicide    Zoloft & Celexa    2003-02-27    Kansas    17 Year Old Commits Suicide on the Internet
Murder-Suicide Attempt    Zoloft    2009-06-26    Nebraska    17 Year Old Convicted Killer Sues Pfizer: Claims Zoloft Caused Him to Kill in 2002
Psychosis    Antidepressants    2007-05-22    U.S.A.    17 Year Old Driven Crazy by Psych Meds
Suicide Attempt    Prozac    1994-01-11    Texas    17 Year Old Girl Attempts Suicide: Joins Group to Petition for Prozac Warning
Suicide    Zoloft    2003-07-22    Pennsylvania    17 Year Old Girl Commits Suicide
Suicide    Med For Depression    2010-09-20    Ohio    17 Year Old Girl Commits Suicide
Suicide    Med For Depression    2011-08-13    Michigan    17 Year Old Girl Commits Suicide: Black Box Warning for Suicidality on Those 24 & Under
Suicide    Antidepressants    2002-05-22    California    17 Year Old Girl Commits Suicide: Was Suspect in Murder Case
Self-Mutilation & Rage    Paxil & Zoloft    2002-12-15    U.S.A.    17 Year Old Girl Exhibits Bizzare Behavior on Meds
Suicide    Antidepressants    2006-10-27    England    17 Year Old Girl Hangs Self
Murder    Med For Depression Withdrawal    2009-03-10    North Carolina    17 Year Old Girl Kills her Mother
Suicide    Med For Depression    2010-06-05    England    17 Year Old Girl Kills Herself
Suicide    Lexapro    2004-11-01    Wisconsin    17 Year Old Girl Kills Self
Suicide    Med For Depression    2008-06-08    Arizona    17 Year Old Girl Kills Self
Suicide    Antidepressant    2008-03-31    Illinois    17 Year Old Girl Kills Self After Restarting Antidepressant
Murder    Antidepressant    1996-05-11    Texas    17 Year Old Girl Murders Her Father
Running Away    Prozac Withdrawal    2008-10-20    New Hampshire    17 Year Old Girl Runs Away From Home: 2n Time This Happened During a Recent Prozac Withdrawal
Murder-Suicide Attempt    Prozac    2007-03-18    Nevada    17 Year Old Girl Shoots Step-Mother
Suicide    Wellbutrin    2006-06-14    Indiana    17 Year Old Goes Crazy and Dies
Suicide    Zoloft Withdrawal    2010-05-28    New York    17 Year Old Hangs Herself
Suicide    Lexapro    2003-04-16    New York    17 Year Old Hangs Himself
Suicide    Antidepressants    2008-04-04    England    17 Year Old Hangs Himself
Suicide    Antidepressants    2008-09-29    Illinois    17 Year Old Hangs Himself
Suicide    Med For Depression    2010-10-12    Wales    17 Year Old Hangs Himself
Suicide    Antidepressant    2008-11-02    Colorado    17 Year Old Inmate Has Antidepressants Constantly Switched: Hangs Self
Suicide    Paxil    1999-04-01    Utah    17 Year Old Jumps From Freeway Bridge
Murder    Wellbutrin Withdrawal    2005-02-16    Colorado    17 Year Old Kills Father: Had Plotted to Kill Parents
Suicide    Antidepressants    2005-07-18    Wisconsin    17 Year Old Kills Himself
Suicide    Antidepressant    2011-07-21    Canada    17 Year Old Kills Himself
Murder    Celexa Antidepressant    2011-08-08    Florida    17 Year Old Kills His Parents
Suicide    Prozac    2004-07-30    Utah    17 Year Old Kills Self
Suicide    Prozac    2004-02-26    California    17 Year Old Kills Self in Youth Facility
Suicide    Paxil    2010-06-28    Canada    17 Year Old Kills Self: Jury Recommends Changes in Prescribing For Ontario College of Physicians
Suicide    Prozac    2008-03-30    New Zealand    17 Year Old Kills Self: Mother Marches For Awareness
Suicide    Antidepressant    2010-05-11    New York    17 Year Old Kills Self: Vigil Held In Town
Suicide    Effexor    2000-10-31    Arizona    17 Year Old Lies In Front Of Train on his 17th Birthday
Murder    Prozac    1999-07-27    Michigan    17 Year Old Murders Driver of Van
Murder    Med For Depression    2001-05-18    Florida    17 Year Old Murders her Baby
Murder    Paxil*    2002-03-28    Texas    17 Year Old Murders His Friend
Murder    Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL    2005-07-02    Washington    17 Year Old Murders School Tennis Coach
Robbery    Lexapro    2007-09-23    Oregon    17 Year Old Robs Store with Unloaded Gun
Suicide    Prozac    1997-01-03    Montana    17 Year Old Shoots Himself
Violence    Zoloft    2010-03-26    North Carolina    17 Year Old Shot Dead by Police After Attacking Them With a Knife
Murder    Med for Depression    2003-02-03    Colorado    17 Year Old Stabs 91 Year Old Former Mayor
Suicide    Med For Depression    2010-09-15    Kansas    17 Year Old Star Athlete Hangs Himself
Suicidal Thoughts    Prozac    2009-06-14    U.S.A.    17 Year Old Starts on Prozac: Then Has Suicidal Thoughts: Peoples Pharmacy
Suicide    Med For Depression    2008-03-20    Minnesota    17 Year Old Swim Star Hangs Himself
Suicide Attempt    Prozac    2006-01-29    Illinois    17 Year Old Tries to Hang Self
Illegal Possession of a Gun    Antidepressant    2009-08-06    New York    17 Year Old Who Attempted Suicide is Charged With Illegal Possession of a Gun
Missing    Med For Depression    2008-06-04    Minnesota    17 Year Old's Personality Changed on Med: Massive Search of Mississippi River
Murder Attempt    Antidepressants    2002-05-21    Nevada    17-Year-Old Attacks Two Muslim Men
Suicide    Prozac*    1994-06-05    Washington    18 Year Old Asphyxiates Himself
Suicide Attempt    Antidepressant    2008-01-20    Pennsylvania    18 Year Old Attempts Suicide: Jumps 9 Stories From Building
Suicide    Paxil    2004-11-07    England    18 Year Old Begins Self-Mutilation on Paxil: Kills Self
Death    Antidepressants    2008-04-21    Canada    18 Year Old Coed Found Dead: Probable Suicide
Suicide    Wellbutrin Withdrawal    2011-05-08    Maine    18 Year Old College Freshman Kills Self
Death    Antidepressant & Tramadol    2010-07-16    Washington    18 Year Old Dies From a Combo Of Antidepressant & Tramadol, a Painkiller
Murder    Prozac    2007-09-13    Alabama    18 Year Old Girl Asks Boyfriend to Kill Another Man
Suicide    Med for Depression    2004-11-24    Virginia    18 Year Old Girl Commits Suicide
Suicide    Antidepressant    2008-01-20    Scotland    18 Year Old Girl Commits Suicide: Internet Partly Blamed
Death    Zoloft    2008-11-05    England    18 Year Old Girl Dies from Anorexia She Developed on Zoloft
Suicide    Paxil    2006-03-17    England    18 Year Old Girl Dies; Mother Campaigns
Self-Mutilation    Antidepressants    2008-03-03    Wales    18 Year Old Girl Engages in "Cutting" While on Antidepressants
Assault    Antidepressant    2008-10-22    England    18 Year Old Girl Injures her Boyfriend in an Assault
Murder-Suicide    Prozac    1998-01-06    Texas    18 Year Old Girl Kills Boyfriend & Self
Suicide    Med For Depression & Anxiety    2011-07-28    Canada    18 Year Old Girl Kills Self: One Day Withdrawal
Suicide    Lexapro    2007-05-08    Texas    18 Year Old Girl Kills Self: Lawsuit Could Be Decisive
Death    Zoloft    2004-11-21    Wisconsin    18 Year Old Goes Berserk: Shot by Police
Suicide    Prozac    2000-01-06    Hawaii    18 Year Old Hangs Himself
Suicide    Med for Depression    2005-10-08    New York    18 Year Old Hangs Himself
Suicide    Zoloft/Strattera    2006-03-17    California    18 Year Old Hangs Self in Hospital
Felony/Thoughts of Murder    Antidepressants    2008-08-29    Minnesota    18 Year Old Heart Transplant Patient Commits Felonies & Has Thoughts of Murder
Murder    Prozac*    2009-03-08    Pennsylvania    18 Year Old Imprisoned for Murder of Father Has New Evidence Against Prozac
Suicide    Lexapro    2003-07-23    Virginia    18 Year Old Jumps to his Death
Death-By-Cop    Prozac    2001-10-09    California    18 Year Old Killed by Policeman Forced to Shoot
Murder    Wellbutrin    1998-12-02    Michigan    18 Year Old Kills 5 Family Members
Murder-Suicide    Antidepressant    2006-07-18    Ohio    18 Year Old Kills Girlfriend, Then Self
Suicide    Effexor & Prozac    2005-03-20    Nebraska    18 Year Old Kills Himself
Suicide    Antidepressants    2009-11-27    England    18 Year Old Kills Himself
Suicide    Med For Depression    2011-10-29    Nebraska    18 Year Old Kills Himself
Suicide    Wellbutrin [Zyban] WITHDRAWAL*    2003-02-24    England    18 Year Old Kills Himself: Coroner Rules Wellbutrin May Have Been a Factor
Murder    Antidepressants    2009-04-19    Oklahoma    18 Year Old Kills his Father
Murder-Suicide    Antidepressant WITHDRAWAL    2006-08-23    California    18 Year Old Kills Mother & Self
Murder    Prozac    2000-10-04    Alabama    18 Year Old Kills Parents: Injures 3 Siblings
Suicide    Med For Depression    2010-06-05    New York    18 Year Old Kills Self in 2004: Parents Part Of Memorial Bike Run
Suicide    Antidepressant    2011-04-28    Virginia    18 Year Old Kills Self: Covered by FDA Black Box Warning for Suicidality
Suicide    Antidepressant Withdrawal    2010-09-18    Pennsylvania    18 Year Old Kills Self: Parents Blame Recent Abrupt Withdrawal from Depression Med
Murder    Prozac    2004-01-25    Florida    18 Year Old Kills U. of Florida Research Analyst
Murder    Effexor    2003-01-07    Maryland    18 Year Old Murders His Best Friend
Murder    Wellbutrin    2007-02-08    Illinois    18 Year Old Murders His Father
Murder    Wellbutrin    1999-08-24    West Virginia    18 Year Old Murders Woman
Suicide    Antidepressants    2007-11-29    England    18 Year Old on Double Dose of Antidepressants Kills Self

mrdtb123
2/4/2012 12:22:00 AM
I was on Prozac and Zoloft, both made me feel like a robot. I don't know about mind controll. However I agree some people such as myself don't need those meds
lord sauron
2/4/2012 4:21:00 AM
depends on why you're taking it.

a lot of studies on anxiety/depression are now showing that cognitive therapy alone can be more beneficial to learning lasting behavioral changes than taking meds combined with CBT.
crunkmoose
2/4/2012 11:29:00 AM
Originally posted by: lord sauron

depends on why you're taking it.

a lot of studies on anxiety/depression are now showing that cognitive therapy alone can be more beneficial to learning lasting behavioral changes than taking meds combined with CBT.

took me a second to figure out that meant Cognitive Behavioral Therapy... not cock and ball torture.

Also, yeah.. for some people therapy is all they really need because they need behavioral changes for the most part. I was not one of those. Perhaps that is part of what causes some negative effects for some people.
crunkmoose
2/4/2012 11:32:00 AM
Well, Dwarn... right off the bat I would say that A. that is only evidence of correlation, not causation. B. Obviously every single one of those people had pre-existing mental health issues to begin with, so drawing an automatic causation from that correlation is absofuckinglutely ludicrous, especially given the fact that SSRIs don't help everyone who takes them in the first place.
crunkmoose
2/4/2012 11:34:00 AM
Originally posted by: Richard the 3rd

how can you show a link between ssri's and lack of creativity, my mother has been on them for the past 30 years and is a published gay rights author, i have been on them the past 2 years and continue to draw and write poetry

I will second that... having gone to an art school I knew a number of students who took ssris and never noticed any lack in creativity as a whole.
Dwarn
2/5/2012 1:08:00 AM
This thread is a real eye-opener. It further demonstrates that I am never going to get very far trying to talk to the demon-drug-heads; they're mainly the ones still calling me "nutjob" after all these years. It's because certain areas of their brains no longer light up anymore. They bargained with the Devil through Big Pharma, and in return, well, they lost their humanity. Oh, sure, some of them might still be able to make what resembles literature, music, or artwork -- they might even make some money off it -- but as long as they're on SSRI's, it's always going to be missing something and they'll never understand quite what. Oh, sure, some of them might be against war, but as long as they're on SSRI's, they're never going to find out who's really been behind all the wars throughout recorded history, and they'll never make an effort at resistance apart from ready-made, controlled-opposition groups designed to hack at the branches, never the root.

I strongly advise all of you, if you're on these horrible soul-killing drugs, to quit taking them, but remember, you can't do it cold-turkey. It will be a dark night of the soul, for sure, but if your will is strong enough you will finally remember who you really are.
Matthaeus
2/5/2012 1:23:00 AM
shut the fuck up already