suicide 30 replies, 48135 views

tom.
2/5/2015 2:14:00 PM
hoping to get an actual good discussion going.

has anyone here personally had a battle with suicide, if so, how did reach the point and how did you come out of it?
if you have a good story, you could really help a young friend out.
Bashar al-Acab
2/5/2015 2:20:00 PM
kill me and then yourself
Dianana
2/5/2015 2:29:00 PM
I have never been suicidal, but I have gone through bad bouts of depression where I thought, "it'll be so much easier when this is all over." I haven't been there in a long time and I feel for people who feel that often.

But even during those times, I still saw so much beauty and awesomeness in this world. Every day I wake up and think, something is going to make me smile, I'm going to talk to people I love and I'm going to laugh today. And friends are the best, sometimes I just want to line everyone up and squeeze them super tight for ruling so hard. This is why I tell everyone that I love them when I'm drunk, because I mean it and it's true.
Dianana
2/5/2015 2:30:00 PM
But I'm always down to hang out, watch a movie or just listen.
nobodygotstylelikeus
2/5/2015 2:59:00 PM
I think about suicide on a near daily basis, whether it be from literature, media coverage, relative stories from friends/acquaintances or my own personal battle with the subject. To me, there is no event/events that signify a point where I wanted to "give up". It was more of a "what's that point" thought process when I was ready to end my own life on my accord.

I've put my faith into various things such as doctors, studies, friends, alcohol and pharmaceuticals to attempt to fix the problem. In my personal experience, these are just obvious blankets and nothing will fix how the chemicals in my brain align. For now, I've learned to make realistic short term goals for myself, become more family and community oriented. The battle with suicide may hibernate from time to time but it will always be there. I can only educate myself further on the subject and say Fuck it - One Day at a Time.

"There is but one truly serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide. Judging whether life is or is not worth living amounts to answering the fundamental question of philosophy. All the rest -- whether or not the world has three dimensions, whether the mind has nine or twelve categories -- comes afterward."
tony plush
2/5/2015 11:39:00 PM
my best friend killed herself after she promised me she wouldn't. i don't really blame her though, some people just don't feel like they're made for this world, and if you don't have a right to your own life you don't have a right to anything. people that get indignant or angry when someone commits suicide are the worst.
Shostakovich
2/5/2015 11:47:00 PM
Originally posted by: tony plush

people that get indignant or angry when someone commits suicide are the worst.

thissss

I get that it's hard to understand what to most people is an irrational act, but when people get butthurt and throw around words like "coward" and whatnot, cmon.....
tony plush
2/5/2015 11:47:00 PM
i think about it pretty often too, the only advice i have to give is to do something that gets you out of your head. go for a long bike ride, run, lift, etc... mental and physical wellbeing are pretty inseparable.

/srs tone plush
tony plush
2/5/2015 11:51:00 PM
also people will knock pharmaceuticals, but the right medicine and therapy can do a lot for some. it's definitely not the solution but it can help you get to a point where you can start thinking more constructively.
tony plush
2/5/2015 11:52:00 PM
Originally posted by: Shostakovich

Originally posted by: tony plush

people that get indignant or angry when someone commits suicide are the worst.



thissss

I get that it's hard to understand what to most people is an irrational act, but when people get butthurt and throw around words like "coward" and whatnot, cmon.....

yeah, really. a lot of people struggle with different issues, but to actually end your life takes courage if anything.
WREN
2/6/2015 7:29:00 AM
There was a point around 18-19 years old that I really wanted to be dead. I never got to the point of trying suicide other than gaining a serious interest in guns out of nowhere but the thought of death seemed like such a better option and more peaceful to me. I was severely depressed and my body ached from it and because I deal with depression by sleeping, I found myself sleeping almost any hour that I wasn't at work for a few months. Occasionally I'd get up and eat something, usually pretty awful for me, and then go back to bed. There wasn't anything that really happened either. The feelings just kind of snuck up on me and I magnified any problem I had 100x's worse than it really was. Eventually I snapped out of it and I have been on a pretty positive kick for many years now.

I also told my therapist that I wanted God to kill me when I was younger and in counseling to deal with my parents divorce. Apparently I had said it in such a manner that it warranted it an emergency full family session the next day to discuss why I felt that way. I was 7 at the time and really can't remember much about these meetings either.

As far as feeling a certain way about it when it comes to others, I kind of walk the fence of deeming them selfish and saying "well it's their life, it's their decision", however, I'm always sympathetic to their feelings and am normally bummed out that someone got to that point where ending it was their only option and if it's someone I know (I know 2 people that have killed themselves), I immediately begin questioning "what could I have done".

Another interesting thought about suicide is that most people that attempt suicide, say they almost immediately regretting doing it once they tried. I was watching a documentary about all the people that jump off the Golden Gate Bridge and they interviewed 3 survivors that all said the second their feet left the railing, they immediately regretted their decision. And in a lot of cases, other suicide attempters gain some new euphoric appreciation for life after they've survived attempting to take their own lives. Obviously, there are still people that are depressed it didn't work but the fact that a high enough percentage of people say they regret trying presents an interesting aspect to the event.
Brett Weir
2/6/2015 7:46:00 AM
Throwing the judgments down on people who commit suicide makes the act about you and not them. Plush said everything else that needed to be said.
Jess.
2/6/2015 8:11:00 AM
The first best friend I ever had (from age three on) killed himself when I was 14. We had grown apart a little since he was in high school and I was in junior high and I felt that I had really let him down because even though it was natural for friendships to change, it was hard to wrap my head around the fact that I didn't have any idea the person I had practically known everything about since birth was struggling.

As a result, I think I over step when I think one of my friends or even acquaintances are struggling with depression and suicidal thoughts. It's hard for me to know when I should intervene and when I should just let them work it out on their own. I take every suicidal threat very seriously, when most people I talk to say "if they are going to do it, they wouldn't be warning you first". So far, all of those people have turned out to be right, but I don't know if that's the right approach. I've (at least tried to) come to the realization that I will never truly understand that inner struggle because I have never personally battled with depression.
tony plush
2/6/2015 8:14:00 AM
Originally posted by: Brett Weir

Throwing the judgments down on people who commit suicide makes the act about you and not them. Plush said everything else that needed to be said.


tony plush
2/6/2015 8:20:00 AM
also, if someone you know has taken their own life, please take the time to share good memories with their family. my only "real" tattoo is dedicated to my friend and her mom/siblings love it, as well as when i go to visit the cemetary with them. i can't express how important support for the family is after the fact.
Dianana
2/6/2015 9:06:00 AM
Originally posted by: Brett Weir

Throwing the judgments down on people who commit suicide makes the act about you and not them.

We can all give anecdotal stories that can make you look at this in all different ways. I don't think this matters though, as I don't think Tom made a thread to debate. It's a delicate and tricky subject and I have nothing to really say about anyone else's experience, nor is it my place to.
smorgasgeorge
2/6/2015 9:10:00 AM
Don't do it, tom.
nobodygotstylelikeus
2/6/2015 9:15:00 AM
Originally posted by: WREN

Another interesting thought about suicide is that most people that attempt suicide, say they almost immediately regretting doing it once they tried. I was watching a documentary about all the people that jump off the Golden Gate Bridge and they interviewed 3 survivors that all said the second their feet left the railing, they immediately regretted their decision. And in a lot of cases, other suicide attempters gain some new euphoric appreciation for life after they've survived attempting to take their own lives. Obviously, there are still people that are depressed it didn't work but the fact that a high enough percentage of people say they regret trying presents an interesting aspect to the event.

The Bridge was the name of the documentary. That sense of euphoria is also dangerous and almost drug-like. I'd like to see a follow-up on the people that survived to see what their lives are like today if still living.

I personally could't kill myself with a timeframe between action and death. My biggest fear in life in what I will think about between the time I am going to die and my death, which is the main reason why I hate flying so much. When I decide to go it would need to be Budd Dwyer status.
WREN
2/6/2015 9:37:00 AM
Originally posted by: nobodygotstylelikeus

Originally posted by: WREN

Another interesting thought about suicide is that most people that attempt suicide, say they almost immediately regretting doing it once they tried. I was watching a documentary about all the people that jump off the Golden Gate Bridge and they interviewed 3 survivors that all said the second their feet left the railing, they immediately regretted their decision. And in a lot of cases, other suicide attempters gain some new euphoric appreciation for life after they've survived attempting to take their own lives. Obviously, there are still people that are depressed it didn't work but the fact that a high enough percentage of people say they regret trying presents an interesting aspect to the event.

The Bridge was the name of the documentary. That sense of euphoria is also dangerous and almost drug-like. I'd like to see a follow-up on the people that survived to see what their lives are like today if still living.

I personally could't kill myself with a timeframe between action and death. My biggest fear in life in what I will think about between the time I am going to die and my death, which is the main reason why I hate flying so much. When I decide to go it would need to be Budd Dwyer status.


When? Suicide is a route you are definitely taking? If this is a conclusion you've 100% come to and not acted on it, maybe it's time to talk to someone or find something that gives you a better appreciation of your own life.
tony plush
2/6/2015 9:42:00 AM
best option

GoodTimesGone
2/6/2015 9:47:00 AM
Originally posted by: tony plush

people that get indignant or angry when someone commits suicide are the worst.

Quoted for ultimate truth.
planet of the apes
2/6/2015 11:49:00 AM
Crack Pie
2/6/2015 4:42:00 PM
I've been face to face with suicide on a couple different occasions. It was never me, but I've unfortunately seen some things that I wish I could pry from my mind.

I've never been able to wrap my head around it. I'm probably as mentally fucked as I've ever been, but I wouldn't ever consider it. Not even because of obligations or whatever, but just because it doesn't seem like a reasonable action to me.

When my good friend hung himself right after high school I took the "coward" stance and stayed there for a few years. However, after dealing with, seeing and hearing everything I have the last few years I don't feel that way anymore.

I hope I never understand it though. That's one mystery I would rather never solve, personally.
tony plush
2/6/2015 5:06:00 PM
i don't really think of it as a huge deal, ive toyed with the thought since i was a little kid to be honest, but then again, ive been diagnosed with major depressive disorder among other things. but i feel the whole "coward" stance is kind of like victim blaming in sexual abuse cases. (not trying to throw any shade your way, craley)
Cumby
2/6/2015 5:10:00 PM
why did the gin blossoms guy have to die
tony plush
2/6/2015 5:25:00 PM
because you did something to anger god